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>> and then by people who would be cheering for him while he was important for him all day long. but it will say he's been remarkably on message here talking about things that do matter to new york voters, talking about helping with infrastructure, helping with jobs. and i a number of people in the bronx say before we even got into the rally and then rise to really responsive there was we had people saying you should get out and he doesn't belong here, but we also had people saying that they voted for biden and 20 and they were looking for alternative many of them citing the economy, sydney felt like times we're too hard and they were looking at seriously voting for donald trump all right, kristin, thank you very much. right up there and cortona park in the bronx joke indians out with fraught with me now republican strategist and former republican senate

candidate here in new york, and the host of the truth with sherwin hughes radio show out of wisconsin. sure. when he was his back, he interviewed president biden on a show last week. so sherwin you are telling me then that you felt trump had ignored the african in american community as president and that, that community is much better off now under president biden. but now, when you look at what's happening in the bronx and sure they had time to plan this. they knew they were going to make sure people showed up, but but people are there this is one of the most reliably democratic districts in the country. and they're, they're listening to trump right now. those some of those voters, what do you make of it i think this is nothing more than an exercise and political theater. >> people that show up to rallies are not indicative of the people who are actually going to cast their votes. donald trump is not going to get the electoral vote. mostly state of new york. in fact, the folks that are in the area of the bronx voted for joe biden. you'd like an 80 plus percent. he got joe biden got 80 plus

percent of the vote in the areas surrounding the bronx. but i think as the campaign goes on, and people are reminded of not just who donald trump is, but his whole cast of republican characters who they are, and the policies that they support harmful to people of color, especially african americans whatever the poles are saying right now, you're certainly going to go in different direction as we move toward november. >> all right. so joe just another for president is speaking there in the bronx. he is he is sticking on message. here's something that he just said a moment ago. >> it doesn't matter whether you black or whatever color you are. it doesn't matter we are americans and we're going to pull together is this just political theater? >> well, look, i will acknowledge to share wins point that this is an election year. there is a certain level of pageantry that goes into every election, both at the national level and at the local level. but it is no different than when joe biden goes down to

tulsa and talks about the greatest threat to america being white supremacy, even though he knows he's not going to get the electoral college votes of that state. he does it because he's speaking to a broader audience that they will be newsworthy, that he is trying to explain to black people writ large, that i care about you. and similarly here with president trump, what you see is somebody trying to say that the political calculus of yes, there has not worked the he is in the poorest congressional district, adjusted for actual income. and yet somehow you have democrats were more concerned with him being there and the conditions that people are living through public housing. but where $80 billion behind and natural repairs and they have done nothing when we have arsenic at dangerous levels in the drinking water in public housing and they have done nothing yes. there are plenty of arguments that democrats can make, but don't want to make them. they want to relitigate 2016 and 2020. in the hopes that people will not actually focus on what's happening to them every single and what's happening every single day? sure. when and as as kristin pointed out, right. she talked to people around that rally

today, some work cited some wishy hadn't come right? >> you. what you would expect, but those she spoke to who we're waiting for that rally and supported trump here's some of what they had to say i. >> am a staunch trump supporter. 2024, more than any other year. i feel compelled to do it this year. >> trump is the best the only man cape which make those changes and he will make attention. it's donald trump, democrats destroyed my city and we need somebody that's going to heat up people's voice and trump's people's voice sherwin. what, what's your reaction to that? they're willing to speak out and say it. they're there they are black and hispanic is this possibly the tip of a bigger iceberg this year? >> i find it rich than those individuals think that donald trump is going to be some, some kind of way helpful when he is appointed the fewest number of african-american judges to the federal bench when his policies have essentially gutted

affirmative action and actually just him, but the other republicans that support him, which i think is overlooked because we were paul public goods do is they obstruct democratic policies that really seek to have working class people, people of color and black people. but the republican party blocks all of that. and so when as african americans, when we look around our community and we see nothing but democratic elected officials and we see that the trajectory of our lives are not changing. it's easy for us to blame the democrats want to change direction? >> what the republicans are doing is making it difficult for democrats to put policies in place that can actually help us. >> and then they're having us blame the democrats when it's actually them in their policy agenda. >> so joe, right now, trump has been sticking on message as kristen said, and i'll let you know if that changes, but in other times, if he has talked about trying to win over black voters he has said because i am in a court case, because there's a mug shot of me. black people you connect with me. >> this is what he said and let me just play how he said it lot of people said that that's why

the black people like because they have been hurt so badly and discriminated against. >> we've all seen the mug shot and you know who embraced it more than anybody else. the black population, it's incredible. you see black people walking around with my mug shot. they do shirts does that. >> i mean, how do you respond to that? what do you hear when you hear that? i look, i think it's a misguided attempt at humor black people not responding to the mug shots. >> black people are responding to despair and to my colleagues points, i would agree black play faces in high places. i'm not going to be the salvation of black people policy will. and so when i sit here in new york state, where we have close to 20,000 black students in the rochester public school system and 16,000 families have tried to the eject button and every single person represents him as a democrat and won't allow it to happen. i don't see policies is trying to move people forward. when i look at that as the civil rights issue of our really think he's joking here. i mean, i know he he he gets that there's humor in it,

but i think it was pretty serious i think here's the reality. the reality is that we have two men on the ballot, one person who thinks that sneakers and mug shots might help him and the other person who thinks that he has the right at his big old age to tell me that if i as a black man don't vote for him the and i no longer get to call myself black. so it appears to me that we have reached a point in time harm in our politics. we tried to whitewash away the sins of the non-black candidates when they offend the sensibilities of black america. but we agree with their underlying political ambitions. that becomes the issue here are more so than anything else. >> sherwin if donald trump was really interested in according the black vote, because quite honestly there's a lot of african-americans and people of color that do want something different because are not seeing things change as quickly as they probably should. >> then why is he talking about gutting the affordable care act? and that would take health care away from a lot of people of color, a lot of working class folks, and african-american because if you really was concerned about african americans, he would be having a conversation about reparations he'd be having a

conversation about how african-american properties in black neighborhoods, our d devalued simply because african-americans live in those communities. i don't trump is never going to mention any of those things that could actually help because he had just engaging in political theater and trying to get us to blame the democrats when it is the republican party, just trying to sow doubt in our elections. and we were not going to forget what happened on january 6, that that also should be a warning to a lot of folks again, there is a what you're talking about is a sensible policy-based conversation about what is good for black people and what is bad for black people. >> we can talk about reparations, but there many black people who just watts, california come up with a blue collar commission to agree on a number that governor dan said they were never going to pay. and so what always seems like that old orphan annie, the promises come tomorrow as think we're going to have different issues that we care about, but ultimately, having the conversations import and trying to slander either candidate i think is where we get into a take your ball of joe and sherwin. thank you both very much. i appreciate your being on with me and next, blame the

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a billionaire republican megadonor, who would go on doubt cases before the supreme court. alito did not recuse himself from those. and the question now is whether justice alito should be on the bench to decide the two major trump cases before the court, which will make history one, about immunity at the heart of the doj election interference case. and the other about charges against january 6 insurrectionists my guess now is the constitutional law professor at harvard, laurence tribe, actual, actually warned senators about alito during his confirmation hearing in 2006. here it is. >> i'm very troubled by his views obviously it follows from that that i would be hard-pressed to recommend his confirmation i'm going to speak to professor tribe in just a moment. but first, manu raju outfront live on capitol hill and mano, you have been talking to pretty much everyone there about alito. and what are they telling you look, the reaction has been mostly along party lines.

>> yes, there are some republicans who are offering the mildest of criticism of daniel alito saying that he probably should have exercised better judgment, but they are quick to pivot and blame his wives aligning himself with what themselves, with what alito said putting this on his wife, this upside down flag, that was outside of his house. others are saying what mitch mcconnell, the republican leader told me over this week that they should leave, are democrats have leaves the supreme court alone. that was the words of mitch mcconnell, democrats on the other hand, say that this shows that in their view, alito cannot be impartial and must recuse himself from these two key cases involving january is six. now, as i put this question to a number of republicans, they're making clear though that they are on the line and the side of listen that that's what happened here. public figure, whether in judiciary, us senate probably not wise, that's a sign of distress. my understanding it's my understanding why turned upside

down and our country is under a little bit not a little bit. a lot of distress right now as we speak, i mean, look, he's got a flag fetish i mean, good good, good for the fit for the supreme court justice now senate democrats do have a bill to impose a new code of ethics on the supreme court. >> but that bill passed out of the senate judiciary committee last july, and it still has not come to the floor of the senate for a vote. chuck schumer, senate majority leader, was asked about out that built earlier this week, he did not commit to putting it on the floor, but said he would have discussions with the senate judiciary committee, chairman dick durbin in the days ahead all right. >> thank you very much, manu and i want to go now to noted legal scholar, the harvard law professor laurence tribe, and professor we just saw you criticizing alito during his confirmation here during you were there and you were asked and you said you were quote, troubled by his views. that was 18 years ago what is your reaction now to these to the second flag incident? now alito

i don't know how many flag incidents we need before we can tell that justice alito should not sit on any of the cases related to the insurrection perhaps you shouldn't be on the court at all he's not just turned the american flag upside down, but in case after case, i'm afraid he's turning the constitution upside down. >> just today and a 6-3 opinion he essentially refused to agree with the district courts detailed findings showing that race was the dominant motive in the drawing of district leinz in one of the southern states the he's been very political and the flags that he flies even if he tries to throw his wife under the bus with respect to one of them, raise serious questions about whether he is

signaling his sympathy with the insurrectionists it seems to me that that's more than enough to explain why the senate judiciary committee under the chairmanship of dick durbin should begin hearings, not just on imposing a binding code of ethics because that's already been recommended by the committee and i think chuck schumer's or put it on the floor, but also about whether samuel alito really has met the requirements of good behavior. that's what these appointments are for. they're not for life they are under the constitution as long as the investments doesn't breach important elements of the oath of neutrality okay. so as part of this and it's important that you note that on the actual code of ethics to formalize it. but on this issue of people coming to his defense, and this has been republicans and obviously alito blamed his wife for the first incident he

referred to her as mrs. alito and he said that that she had hung the flag upside down now, number of republicans are repeating the wife as the excuse, but others of them, professor and this is interesting speaker johnson among them, senator tom cotton among them, said that the second flag, the one not this one here, but the other one flying outside alito's vacation home was george washington's flag. this one. so it's okay what do you make of that? >> excuse george washington was flying it as a symbol independence against president against the king george. >> the united kingdom that's not what's at stake here. the current context insurrection not against the commonwealth, not against the empire, but against the united states of america even the nazi symbol.

if you go back far enough think 6,000 years ago in india represented something else. >> but when a simple comes to stand for fascism or overturning the american constitution then you gotta own it. >> that's what he's doing and they're simply reaching reaching back to something which has nothing to do with the current situation. >> the swastika analogy is a powerful one is it does show right time the context of the time that you are in is everything. when you, when you choose to use a symbol there republicans saying that this is harassment by the left and senator thom tillis, as it's intellectually dishonest to criticize alito. >> and the reason he says that professor, i want to give you a chance to respond. he says, look at comments made by other justices, including ruth bader, ginsburg, it and to remind everybody, of course what she said was, i can't imagine what the country she would be with donald trump is our president. she went on to call him a

faker, right? >> so it was clear where she stood politically in that instant is that different right? well, i criticized her when she said that she was not however on the rampage politically against a certain set of ideas she had her views and they affected the way she voted likewise with scalia, you don't expect these justices to be sort of empty vessels, blank slates, but it's something very different when the justice becomes an active political player, the way justice alito did when he, mouthed the words, not true during obama's state of the union message. and the way his been doing in defending invariant various very political speeches his decision in the dodds case to roll back roe v wade and to refer to 17th century thought thought that

women were meaning source of ratio is barred as witches i'm sorry, i think getting a call from aright i'll use that as our cute end this conversation for now, professor, but i really appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> thanks. and i'm sorry for the interruption. >> that's all right. don't worry about it it happens to us all. all all right. next, tucker carlson is now all the rage in russia. his show, even now airing in full on russian state television tonight tucker. carlson is weighing in, plus the man who got george w bush elected president is warning republicans tonight, but rfk junior is going to help joe biden win. so what do the numbers tell us? >> harry enten is outfront in one of the most active 20 seasons can't control a tornado what kinds of

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carlson's online show has been airing on local russian shoe size kremlin, which has silenced critical voices propaganda value by one. wasn't we were told they course recently, a segment on the dangers of us biological weapons development with an american science and technology writer was ed in full carlson tell cnn, he was unaware the clips were being shown me since i can leave. >> but for months, snack kremlin has been casting with tucker carlson. he lost his job on fox news last year mr. tucker, when as a truth speaking, american media star, even if granted is very interview, we go glad screen cinema across the country, too. shouldn't you watch this movie

is big respect to our president said this near to go. use. >> the chesney one but in theory you, i've seen it twice. >> it says another. it's great to hear the opinion of our great leader. >> she adds tucker carlson isn't the only outspoken american celebrated by moscow i'm going to swarm module it. they a little green is also praised on kremlin tv. >> illegal as gas out as his republican senator mike lee, both staunchly opposed to us military aid to ukraine from a position of course, shared by the kremlin the war in ukraine drags on. there are concerns kremlin propaganda, anti ukraine pro russia is increasingly finding its way into the us political debate one republican congressman told cnn recently on the house floor

and moscow's interest lies in bolstering those who it feels share, at least in part, are you good? >> it's skeptical sometimes distorted worldview aaron, it's not like all of these us figures are particularly popular inside moscow. >> and in fact, when it comes to tucker carlson, many of the people in the russian capital that we spoke to didn't even know who he was. we have to remind them that is the person who interviewed vladeck putin. now, the point is this, that in this us election season, particularly the kremlin is keen to promote and support anyone. it sees as a potential ally and anyone who supports its narrative back to you. >> all right. thank you very much. matthew. and also this our death to israel, death to america. mourners screaming those chance today as he runs

far president ebrahim raisi was buried following a three-day funeral ceremony. were tens of thousands of people lined the streets in multiple cities in iran this comes as the country continues its investigation into the sudden helicopter crash that killed raisi and the foreign minister of iran, fred pleitgen, is outfront tonight in qur'an the streets of mug shot, jam packed with people mourning the late president ebrahim raisi as a truck with his casket made its way to the imam reza shrine, one of the most important holy sites in iran hundreds of thousands of people have come out here on the streets of mug shot. >> this is really very much the political and the spiritual homeland of a right raisi and the people our while they are in great sorrow, they hope that iran continues down that conservative trajectory that was common frame, right? raisi's administration's the smith low him in power for three years. ebrahim raisi was a conservative hard liner

overseeing a crackdown on protests against iran strict hijab laws in 2022 but also the first ever strikes against israel from iranian soil in retaliation for the bombing of iran embassy compound in syria crowds at the funeral, screaming death to israel death to america, vowing to remain loyal to ratan. partly agenda not 100%, 100%. this man says, these are all races and they will continue you and this woman says, we have come here to say, if they took raisi from us, we still have our supreme leader and we back in and we'll never leave him alone. >> mohammed shift. >> we have always expressed our position towards the us. this man says, just like the policy of the president and the martyr qassem soleimani to struggle against arrogance we won't allow the arm of arrogance to go around the world will cut it

down after raisi, iran's foreign minister hossein amir abdollahian and several others were killed in a chopper crash in northern iran on sunday tack, ron says a new president will be elected in late june this week has been one of mourning culminating in the funeral prayers for raisi inside the imam reza shrine oh the body of ebrahim raisi was brought to its final resting place. iran is looking ahead one of the us's toughest adversaries soon to decide its political future and friday, incredible that you were able to actually experience all of that. and i know you have some new information tonight about the crash itself, the helicopter crash. what are you learning? >> yeah, we certainly do it as a preliminary report now, from the investigative committee that is of course, looking into that crash. of course, as you know, and we've been reporting error and there had been some

questions about whether or not this was really plea an accident, possibly due to bad weather, or whether or not there might be fouled play involved in all of it. well, the first preliminary report now the investigators are saying that first of all, they believe that the pilot so it was not acting suspiciously suspiciously. he didn't deviate from the flight path and apparently and kept communications with the other choppers that were in that convoy as well. but importantly, also seems as though the investigators have also looked at parts of the records of that helicopter and decided and found out that there were no bullet marks on that wreckage and no shrapnel model perks either. so it's increasing looking though, as though it really was just an accident that happened, possibly due to weather on that mountain, sayyed aaron. >> all right. thank you very much, fred, in mug shot qur'an, live here on cnn tonight. thank you, fred. and next, rfk junior and his running mate practically strangers, not on the same page on a lot of policy, barely campaigning together is it worth the money? plus breaking news, chinese warships and fighter jets surrounding taiwan, beijing now

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states, nicole shanahan. nicole shanahan is not a familiar name in national politics we've got and before choosing her as his running mate, independent presidential candidate robert f. kennedy jr. didn't appear to know her either. >> as recently as a year ago. i really didn't think much of bobby kennedy because i didn't know much about him. still, i'm confident that there is no american more qualified. >> and nicole shanahan to play this role. >> now after a series of interviews meant to introduce these silicon valley lawyer to voters, some key compatibility questions have been raised as well, such as are shanahan and kennedy aligned on abortion? >> i wouldn't leave it to the states right? >> oh, i would anyone say completely it's up to. >> you should leave it to the woman. >> but in an interview with the sage, still show podcast this month, shanahan seemed unclear about where the top of the ticket stance my understanding

is that he absolutely believes in limits on on abortion or kennedy ports abortion limits up to fetal viability, which experts say occur between 23 to 24 weeks. >> shanahan has shown support for federally restricting abortion between 15 and 18 weeks and where does the duo stand on? israel's four with hamas? kennedy has been unflinching in backing israel. >> i would continue aid israel's fighting a defensive war. it's not a war of choice. while shanahan has been more critical, but you know starting a war with hamas right now is not just starting h4 with hamas it is it is engaging in something in the middle east was not very well planned. both republicans and democrats have pounced on the relatively unknown independent saying the wealthy california native was only pick for her pocketbook. she's more liberal than junior by far, not a serious person

and only a part of cash to help her get her no chance candidate on the ballot. >> the new york times reports shanahan received around $1 after recently divorcing google co-founder sergey brin, the threat of a third party effort with deep pockets as prompted democrats to target kennedy's campaign over concerns he could hurt biden's reelection chances it's more looking like she's more like a checkbook in this situation because she is she was only involved really when he needed to get on the ballot in april that kennedy campaign raised more than $10 million but some 8 million of that hall came directly from shanahan as the pair seeks to forge a path together on the campaign trail. an error in the campaign acknowledging kennedy and shanahan do in fact differ on abortion. but telling me in a statement in part, both are aligned with the emerging national consensus of no restrictions up till a certain

point and restrictions there thereafter. meanwhile, kennedy continues to have a strong showing in the polls for a third party candidate in the latest marquette poll kennedy getting 17% behind trump's 40%, and biden's 37%. >> erin. all right, eva, thank you very much. so let's go beyond numbers with harry enten. so harry this is crucial, this whole conversation, rfk junior is going to speak the libertarian convention tomorrow. trump is also speaking at the libertarian convention, both going after those votes. obviously how does rfk jr. do with people who maybe last time around didn't find india candidate. >> yeah, those who are disenchanted with the two major parties, right? those who didn't vote for biden or trump, or didn't actually even cast a ballot back in 2020. look at who those folks are supporting right now, what you essentially has a have a two-person race with rfk jr. at 37% and donald trump at 30%.

joe biden way back at 12% i think. this gives you an indication of why both of them are going to that libertarian convention. they both believed that they can appeal to third parties. those folks who support third parties, and essentially say those people who are disenchanted with the system, rfk wants to be there guy, but donald trump also wants to be there guy it's very interesting. >> 37% of the people who sat out last time. okay. so karl rove, i shared part of that op-ed. he says rfk junior is going to take more votes from trump obviously, we've heard i've heard this argued every which way to sunday, what are the numbers tell you? yeah. at this particular point, it does look like rfk junior is going to take more votes away from trump than joe biden. i am, but it's not a landslide or and i think that's the important thing here. if you look at the latest quinnipiac university poll, which you see is that the folks who support rfk jr. in the 3y1 three-way, when you squeeze it down to a two way, you see that donald trump wins 51% of them. joe biden wins 37%. now again, that's not a landslide, but it's something that could matter in a title let them right. it's the type of thing that could make the

difference if rfk junior is in fact stays in the race and continues to pull those high percentages of eva was talking to that's right. >> especially in states that had what, 10,000 vote margins, arizona and georgia were looking at you, nicole shanahan eva was going through some of the policy differences there she is one of his only donors actually, not just two huge one, but maybe one of the only yeah if we look at the campaign committee, if we look what percentage of the donors last month of the money that came in came from her. >> we're talking about north of 70%. you see that 74%. but if you look at the american values, 2024 super pac, timothy mellon, who's a billionaire who also donates to a lot of pro-trump causes 81% of the money came from him. so the fact is most of the money for for kennedy is coming from two people that's really fascinating. >> on so many levels. his clinical tenacious to be a small money guys speaking for the small people. >> but in fact, it's for the large donors that are for him. >> all right. harry, thank you very much. and next, breaking news, china now warning those in taiwan, put end up with bloody and bashed heads. as

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taiwan, independence will have their heads bashed bloody in the face of the historical trend of china's complete reunification heads bashed bloody taiwan. now, shoring up its defenses as the threat of a full-scale chinese invasion looms, working to build its own vision of elon musk's starlink satellite system without musk's help, will ripley is outfront deep beneath the waters around taiwan, a fragile digital lifeline, some call shockingly vulnerable to a chinese attack. >> 15 undersea internet cables connecting taiwan to the rest of the world, vital strategic assets and potential military targets cut the cables. you cut off the internet, plunging 24 million people into digital darkness, leaving this island democracy dangerously exposed elon musk spent years and

billions developing starlink using low orbit communication satellites to provide high-speed internet. here in taiwan, people have plenty of reasons to doubt the reliability of starlink. elon musk controls it and he has deep business ties with china in september, musk made comments seen as signing with beijing over taipei, or policy has been to serve reunites sidewalk that was trying to from that standpoint maybe this valgus to like hawaii taiwan's foreign minister quickly fired back posting on monday asks x platform listen up. taiwan is not part of the people's republic of china, and certainly not for sale. >> three, two to protect itself, taiwan is turning to space, investing billions to develop and launch its own low orbit communications satellites

to ensure uninterrupted internet connectivity in times of crisis, a program spearheaded by ooh zhong chin, director general of tasa taiwan's space agency, the communication center ai is very important for our communication resilience during urgent period starlink, developed by spacex, crucial in conflict zones like ukraine and gaza tasa is racing to develop a similar system in space, the satellite you're developing, if the internet or the communication leinz were cut and taiwan could go into the dark right there, right out. >> this would take it very, very severe a chilling case study of taiwan's digital vulnerability on its outlying matsu island's last year, taipei accused to chinese ships of severing underwater cables without providing direct evidence. >> the only backup sluggish microwave radio transmission isolated islands, cut off from the outside world taiwan is

cooperating with nasa in the us accelerating its space program in the face of rising threats, china is rising up in space. in space there's no country. the vision, or there's no boundary and back on earth, rising cross-strait tensions, adding urgency to taiwan's space race these military drills happening right now around taiwan underscore just how urgent of a project this is for taiwan because any of the warships that are selling around theoretically could cut the internet cables, which would result in a island-wide communications blackout, which could of course, we can taiwan be a precursor for a blockade or an invasion. >> i mean, these are the scenarios that they are thinking about an are now potentially playing out or at least the training for which on the chinese side playing out in real time error. >> all right, well, thank you very much in taipei tonight.

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